Interview with: Jeffrey I. Friedman, Chairman, President and CEO - featuring: their 100 multifamily properties containing a total of 20,758 units located in nine states.

Associated Estates Realty Corporation (AEC-NYSE)

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Associated Estates Realty Corporation has done what they said they were going to do in selling certain Midwest properties and paying down their debt, which has improved their cash flow, debt service coverage and unencumbered properties by paying off mortgages

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Financial
REIT-Residential
(AEC-NYSE)


Associated Estates Realty Corporation

1 AEC Parkway
Richmond Heights, OH 44143-1500
Phone: 216-261-5000


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Jeffrey I. Friedman
Chairman, President and CEO

Interview conducted by:
Lynn Fosse, Senior Editor
CEOCFOinterviews.com
Published - March 29, 2007

BIO:
Jeffrey I. Friedman, Chairman, President and CEO, has been involved in the real estate business since 1969. He joined the organization in 1974. Mr. Friedman has served as Chairman and CEO of the Company since 1993. He is involved in both national and local civic and charitable organizations, including the Greater Cleveland Sports Commission. He is a graduate of Leadership Cleveland and is also active in several professional organizations, including the National Association of Real Estate Investment Trusts, World Presidents Organization, Urban Land Institute and the National Multi-Housing Council.

Company Profile:

Associated Estates Realty Corporation is a real estate investment trust ("REIT"), headquartered in Richmond Heights, Ohio, a suburb of Cleveland. The Company specializes in the ownership, management, development and acquisition of apartment communities. The Company directly or indirectly owns, manages or is a joint venture partner in 100 multifamily properties containing a total of 20,758 units located in nine states.

CEOCFO
: Mr. Friedman, when we spoke about 2 years ago you were working on a strategic plan to make some changes to the markets in which you operate; please bring us up to date as to what you have been doing and how its been working.
Mr. Friedman: “Thank you Lynn, it’s really a pleasure to talk with you once again. From a strategic standpoint, we have continued to do the things that we said we were going to do, which was to sell assets in the Midwest, to grow in other markets and to use the proceeds of the sale of our non-core Midwest portfolio and certain other assets to pay-down debt. That has worked very well. If you measure how well we’re doing by our stock price performance since we last spoke, we’re doing quite well!”

CEOCFO: What markets do you operate in today?
Mr. Friedman: “Today we own and manage about 100 properties and over 20,000 units in 9 states. Properties that are owned by Associated Estates are, for the most part, what we would refer to as your class-A and class-B, suburban garden-type apartments. In our 9-state portfolio of properties, just over 60% of our NOI (Net Operating Income) comes from properties in the Midwest, including Michigan, Ohio and Indianapolis. We also own one property in Pittsburgh. While Pittsburgh is not really the Midwest, it’s close enough. In addition, we own properties in what we refer to as the Mid-Atlantic, specifically Metro D.C., Atlanta and Florida. Metro D.C. represents about 9% of the company’s market-rate NOI and almost 6% comes from the Atlanta market. In Florida, almost 16% comes from our properties located in Ft. Lauderdale, West Palm Beach and Orlando.”

CEOCFO: What are your growth areas?
Mr. Friedman: “We are repositioning our portfolio by selling certain Midwest properties, as well as our only property in Houston, Texas, and we just sold our only property in Raleigh, North Carolina. Our objective is to decrease the number of markets we operate in and expand outside the Midwest in faster growing markets. We are always looking to grow in markets with strong fundamentals where we can buy a portfolio of properties or build enough of a presence to support our management team, which is really the key to this business… Good properties, good people and critical mass.”

CEOCFO: Service and customer satisfaction are key for Associated Estates.  How do you foster an atmosphere that encourages your people to go above and beyond?
Mr. Friedman: “Clearly, at AEC it is about the 3 Ps: our people, our processes and our portfolio. About our people, one of the things that we did just 2 years ago was bring in a seasoned apartment specialist, John T. Shannon, senior vice-president of operations, to lead the property operations team. John has built a team of people and created innovative training programs that help each of our employees at our properties do a better job every day, tending to our customers – our residents and our prospective residents. As a company, we have committed significant resources, over $1 million per year, in terms of training, educating and providing resources and support.

One of the big changes since we last spoke is that we now send our training teams to the properties to train the staff to understand the local market and the competition. In addition, our training team helps develop programs for leasing and setting rent that is specific to the properties in each market. For example, one of the things that we have done is that we have partnered with a company that provides a 24-hour, 7-day a week call center. So, if one of our team members at a property, such as a leasing agent, is sitting and talking with a prospective customer or a resident and the phone rings, he or she does not have to stop mid-task to answer that phone. Rather, the phone is picked up by a trained professional who is experienced with regard to that property and can handle the information that a customer may need, whether it is a service call or someone who is interested in renting.

Technologically, we’ve created an online concierge, electronic payment, interactive websites and property management software that make it easier for all of our customers to communicate. We have created something that is proprietary called, Responsive Service Visit Program, and the acronym is RSVP. That program requires that our site level staff be in contact with each of our residents at least 12 times per year, so that it is not only when there is a maintenance issue or something that needs to be done. This is regular contact to make sure that we are meeting the expectations of that resident. To measure how we’re doing, we have created an enhanced reporting environment, so that we, as a company, get information and results quickly. With that, John Shannon and his team are able to provide the hands-on attention and support that is always needed to get the best performance from each of the properties.”

CEOCFO: Do your tenants know that they are in an AEC managed property and should it matter to them?
Mr. Friedman: “We like to call our customers residents, and what you are referring to is our branding concept. That is where the third ‘P,’ our portfolio, is so very important. Number one, residents want a hassle free living experience. They want to think that they are getting a good value for their money. We all know from our own personal experience that sometimes we are willing to pay a little more for something if we think that it is better or we think that we are getting better service. Therefore, we think that the capital that we invest in our property helps residents recognize that when comparing AEC to others that they are getting better value. In addition, there is also location to consider, and at AEC, because we do not just buy or build a property anywhere, we want to be in the right school system, the right side of the street and located close to certain services that make it convenient for our residents. When they walk onto our property, they see the AEC name, but hopefully they feel our Service, Satisfaction and Value mantra. At the property level, it isn’t about promoting AEC, it’s about ensuring that each of our residents believe that they are getting good value for their money and that they have as hassle free living experience as possible.”

CEOCFO: What do you like about the Suburban Garden Apartment arena, since it seems that you are choosing to be almost exclusively in that area?
Mr. Friedman: “If we describe the apartment business, we would describe it as either Suburban Garden or Urban Infill. You don’t typically see Garden apartments in the downtown urban centers of major cities due to the amount of land needed for these style properties. Instead, you will see vertical or High-Rise buildings in the central business district. Historically, except in a few 24-hour cities like Chicago and New York, people were not living downtown. It is only recently that you find cities, such as Los Angeles, Dallas and Miami, where lots of people are beginning to live downtown. Only in recent years have cities become a hub for rental units. At AEC, our focus continues to be on the suburban locations. We believe that, over the long haul, suburban properties will continue to perform well. However, that is not to say that in the future, we wouldn’t consider opportunities to grow in urban locations, but at this point our concentration is in the suburban style property.”

CEOCFO: Tell us about the apartment housing market, how it has been affected by the housing market in general and specifically to your occupancy, rates and ability to increase rent.
Mr. Friedman: “The rental housing business is driven by two things. The number one driver is household formation and second to that is job growth. Very simply, you will see the strongest rental markets in the communities that have the most people moving into them, and when you combine that with, for example, job growth, you have both of the main drivers for the apartment business. For example, in Las Vegas, you have people moving in and tremendous job growth; in Southern California, you have people moving in with lots of jobs, but not as many jobs as Las Vegas. Then you have South Florida, where you have lots of people moving in, and in certain cities good job growth, such as in Orlando, with Universal Studios (a subsidiary of NBC Universal) and The Walt Disney Company (NYSE: DIS). Then you go down into Dade County or Miami, where there is not as much job growth, but lots of people moving in. Therefore, a combination of those factors drive rents. In Atlanta, we have tremendous job growth and because of that, you have people moving in. Now the question is, ‘how do those jobs relate to household formation and then what drives price’? What drives price is the difference between the cost to own and the cost to rent – the higher the average home prices, the higher the average rents. Specifically, if you think about the markets that have the highest cost to own, those would be New York City and maybe San Francisco or even Chicago or Miami. These are cities where the cost to own a home is so great that there are many people who can’t afford them. Over the last couple of years with the inflation in home prices, even though today people would describe the housing market as being soft, costs have gone up so much that in many of these markets, it costs much less to rent. This has given apartment owners the ability to push rents. That’s one of the reasons we have been so profitable and successful over the last few years. So, even though the housing market has been softer, of late, apartment owners have had pricing power because of the decrease in the spread between the cost to own and the cost to rent.”

CEOCFO: Why should investors be interested in Associated Estates Realty Corporation today?
Mr. Friedman: “If I said that it was just because we had a lot of hard working people, certainly, that is not enough to attract the interest of investors. However, we do have a couple of very compelling, yet simple reasons. First, it helps that we have done what we said that we were going to do. We’ve improved our cash flow, our debt service coverage and unencumbered properties by paying off mortgages. That is very important to our stockholders; we said were going to pay off mortgages and improve the balance sheet, and we did. Secondly, what we said when we recently announced our 4th Quarter earnings is that we are going to continue to sell Midwest properties at historically low cap rates, we are going to use the sales proceeds to continue to pay down our high coupon debt, to further improve our cash flow and we are going to look for acquisitions opportunistically. We expect to generate over 13% FFO (Funds From Operations) per share growth, based on the mid-point of our 2007 guidance. Therefore, the most important reason you buy AEC stock today is that 13% FFO growth is, as of now – February 2007 – the highest projected FFO per share growth of any other apartment company that I know of. Lastly, and most important, with regard to the ‘why,’ is that the company has said that the net asset value, which is the value of all of our properties, minus the debt, plus the other assets, minus the other liabilities, is over $27.00 per share, and we are trading at about $16.50 as we speak today. There is an opportunity for people who buy AEC stock, to buy a REIT at a substantial discount to its net asset value. In addition to the expected growth, an investor should also be able to benefit from the current $0.68 per share annual dividend in 2007. I think those are compelling reasons to own AEC.”

CEOCFO: What challenges do you see going forward and how are you ready?
Mr. Friedman: “Our management team has many years of collective experience in the apartment business; we have the deepest bench in the history of the company. Therefore, in terms of challenges, we are a prepared team with expertise to deal with the market conditions as they change from time to time. The things that we can control are things like the training, the condition of our properties, a hands-on approach to running our properties and then being flexible and responding to the changes and demands in the market. The things that we cannot control are things like the world geo-political situation and what happens with interest rates. Therefore, the challenges in the apartment business are to try to anticipate how those global issues and micro-market issues affect our properties and our bottom line. Those changes may include plant closings, new jobs and trends in living downtown verses suburban. Then, our challenge is to make sure that we have dedicated experienced people on the ground at every property and in our corporate offices in Richmond Heights, Ohio, to be able to address those changes.”

CEOCFO: Do you have any final thoughts for our readers?
Mr. Friedman: “To sum it up, we have a very simple strategy. We are selling properties at historic low cap rates and high prices. We are paying off high coupon debt and strengthening our balance sheet. The group of properties that we own today are well positioned to be able to perform, at or better than the market, and to generate what we believe will be above market returns. As a result, the performance expected from AEC and probably its stock price as a result of the relationship between our performance and stock price should be spectacular. In 2006, our stock appreciated 50%, and the total return to our shareholders was over 57%, which is the stock price appreciation plus dividend. Although that will be a tough act to follow, we expect that our shareholders will see significant stock price appreciation, in addition to our dividend, in 2007.”


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“If I said that it was just because we had a lot of hard working people, certainly, that is not enough to attract the interest of investors. However, we do have a couple of very compelling, yet simple reasons. First, it helps that we have done what we said that we were going to do. We’ve improved our cash flow, our debt service coverage and unencumbered properties by paying off mortgages. That is very important to our stockholders; we said were going to pay off mortgages and improve the balance sheet, and we did. Secondly, what we said when we recently announced our 4th Quarter earnings is that we are going to continue to sell Midwest properties at historically low cap rates, we are going to use the sales proceeds to continue to pay down our high coupon debt, to further improve our cash flow and we are going to look for acquisitions opportunistically.” - Jeffrey I. Friedman

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