SAMSys Technologies Inc. (SMY)
Interview with: Clifford A. Horwitz, Chairman, President and CEO
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SAMSys Technologies is producing RFID hardware solutions that will read multiple tag products simultaneously

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Telecommunications
Radio Frequency Identification
(TSX Venture: SMY)


SAMSys Technologies Inc.

44 East Beaver Creek Rd. – Unit 11
Richmond Hill, Ontario, L4B 1G8
Phone: 905-707-0404


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Clifford A. Horwitz
Chairman, President and
Chief Executive Officer

Interview conducted by:
Lynn Fosse
Editor

CEOCFOinterviews.com
February 2003

Bio of CEO,
Clifford A. Horwitz
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Cliff Horwitz is Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of SAMSys Technologies Inc., and its operating subsidiaries.

Prior to founding SAMSys, Mr. Horwitz led a varied and successful career in several sectors including the franchising/retailing, manufacturing, hospitality/health care and financial services. This array of experience gives him a unique perspective into understanding and marketing the limitless number of applications of RFID throughout several sectors.

Mr. Horwitz graduated from Carmel College in 1966 with honors, and then attained his Bachelor of Commerce degree from the University of Natal (Durban) in 1970.

Company Profile:
SAMSys Technologies Inc. (SAMSys) (TSX Venture Exchange: SMY), founded in 1995, is a world-leading provider of radio frequency identification (RFID) hardware solutions. In addition to producing RFID reader hardware, SAMSys offers a family of products to simplify the installation and integration of application solutions, and ensure the ongoing performance of the overall RFID hardware infrastructure. SAMSys provides readers at the three most popular frequencies bands, at various levels of performance, and in form factors that are most appropriate to end-users and ADC equipment manufacturers.

SAMSys passive RFID reader hardware technology is designed to support the broadest possible array of protocols and frequencies. It is a company dedicated to working in close cooperation with all of the producers and suppliers of tag products so as to facilitate the interrogation of both current and future devices, through a modular architecture which ensures the absence of premature obsolescence, and excessive capital investment. This vision embraces the concept of "plug and play" whereby modules are added as needed, rather than dictating an initial investment disproportionate to the benefits gained.

In the simplest terms an RFID system consists of a tag (transponder) and a reader (interrogator). The technology of RFID deals with the remote collection of information stored on a tag using radio frequency communications. Information stored on the tag can range from as little as an identification number to kilo-bytes of data written to and read from the tag, to dynamic information maintained on the tag, such as temperature histories. The information from the tag/reader combination is either presented to a human operator typically using a hand-held device with an alpha-numeric display or a host computer which automatically manages the information. As both transponders and readers incorporate the use of integrated circuits ("IC's"), or "chips", RFID has long been recognized by many of the world's major electronic product manufactures as a market offering significant commercial potential.

Family of products include:
Short Range Reader:

The SAMSys™ SARM MF7120 Dual-Frequency Proximity Reader combines both multi-frequency and multi-protocol technologies and delivers them in a single product. The SARM MF7120 can be deployed in its flame-retardant ABS plastic enclosure or as a high-feature module enclosed in your own equipment.
 
Long Range Readers:
The SAMSys™ SARS MP9120 is a high-powered, multi-protocol RFID reader operating at 125/134 KHz, ideally suited for stationary applications requiring long read ranges.
 
Systems:
ICCM Network Development Kit:

With the ICCM Development Kit you can test out different tag protocols to ensure which one is best suited for each application, test your application server interface, remote diagnostic support, and a local RS-485 reader network.

Interrogator Control and Concentrator Module (ICCM)

The Interrogator Control function manages the communications protocol and the flow of data between the RFID tags and the SARS readers.

CEOCFOinterviews: Mr. Horwitz, please give us a brief history of SAMSys Technologies.

Mr. Horwitz: “I founded the company in 1994 and in the early beginnings we were really more of a virtual company. I ‘tripped over’ this technology, more by accident than by intent. I didn’t have a technology background, but became fascinated with aspects of technology, as I understood it at the time to be. The technology pertained to practical applications within the manufacturing and distribution environment and the supply chain in general. I decided it was an area of technology that I would love to get involved in and still believe today that this is the greatest commercial opportunity that I have identified.

The early days of the company were spent pursuing a traditional approach.  RFID (radio frequency identification) has historically been a proprietary technology, due to the lack of standards. Each manufacturer’s version of the technology has been, and is still today, based upon a stand-alone proprietary language or protocol. What has traditionally happened is that manufacturers or vendors of the technology have each gone out and independently developed their own ‘breed’ or brand of technology, primarily in the form of tags or transponders, and they have manufactured readers that were exclusive to that particular tag product. It was a symbiotic relationship and yet an exclusionary relationship to all other products.”

CEOCFOinterviews: Are you still a part of that process?

Mr. Horwitz: “We continued to be a part of that process until about three or four years ago when we identified the need to reposition ourselves. Instead of just being another tag and reader company we decided, with careful self-analysis and introspection, that there really wasn’t much of a value added proposition that we were bringing to bear on the tag side of the business. We decided, instead, to reposition ourselves as a reader specialist and more specifically, a reader company that was capable of providing reader products that would break the traditional mold and read multiple tag products simultaneously. Because of the absence of standards, we decided we would take it upon ourselves to create an atmosphere of COMPATIBILITY, as clearly distinct from STANDARDIZATION, in order to meet the same ultimate end-goal. That was the true watershed event, insofar as the focus of the company was concerned.

I think it is fair to say that we have emerged today as being a leader within this industry; a company that is known for innovative and creative thinking and ideas. We have certainly changed a lot of mainstream thinking in terms of how the technology should be applied, marketed and deployed. In so doing, we have given rise to the philosophy of what we have coined ‘multi-protocol-multi-frequency’, or the ability to read a variety of tag products simultaneously, regardless of the frequency at which they operate, or the interface protocol or language by which the tag and the reader communicate.”

CEOCFOinterviews: Will you explain what the tag and the reader are, how they are used and what you are actually doing?

Mr. Horwitz: “RFID is an automatic data-collection technology. Unfortunately, there is a tendency on the part of neophytes, and even those who are industry insiders, to over simplify the technology. In fact, RFID consists of a multiple number of technologies, in that radio frequency identification is regulated to operate at various frequencies in the spectrum. There is low frequency, high frequency, ultra-high frequency, and there is microwave; each of those frequencies gives rise to a technology that is single and independent from RFID technology which operates at the other frequencies. Whereas one tends to compare RFID to other one-dimensional technologies such as bar codes, or magnetic stripe, RFID is very much more complex because of this multi-frequency environment.

A device, commonly called a tag, consists of an integrated chip that stores data, and an antenna, such that it is able to receive a radio frequency signal. This signal will illuminate, awaken and enable the tag to transmit its ID, or other data that resides in the memory of that chip, back to the reader. The reader is connected to a host computer, which is able to decipher the raw data and convert it into useful information. If one thinks, for analogous purposes, of a bar code where you have a device that is simply a printed label in most cases, that has a series of stripes on it and when it is interrogated by a laser scanner the data on that label is identified by the reader, and in turn translates it into meaningful data. Whereas that is taking place in one dimension, we are using radio frequency signal by which to communicate over longer distances. The attributes of RFID that make it absolutely unique, are that because we are dealing with radio signals the tag can be buried or hidden; we don’t rely on line of sight or physical contact because it can be a significant distance between tag and reader, and we don’t need operator intervention.

Typically, the applications that are best suited to RFID are applications where tagged objects are moving; and simply in the act of movement, and given the strategic location of these interrogation devices, the signals are exchanged between tag and reader without the need for human participation. There are two examples that most people can relate to very easily. One is an electronic tollbooth, where you have a transponder in a car and you drive through a tollbooth, instead of stopping to pay the toll, and the transponder’s ID is read automatically and you simply get a bill in the mail. Another use of RFID is the Mobil SpeedPass program, which is designed for payment at the gas pump; and instead of using credit cards, you have a transponder that sits on your key ring and when you get to the gas pump, you wave the tag in front of the reader and the system permits you to pump gas.”

CEOCFOinterviews: Can you tell us more about the areas that the RFID technology can be applied?

Mr. Horwitz: “We constantly try to encourage prospective end-users to use RFID in applications for which only RFID can be used, due to its inherent functional benefits. If the application calls for automation, which removes human intervention, then you need RFID. It is the only technology that will support that level of functionality. It is perfect for implementing a system which requires extremely high speed, such as at a tollbooth. There are currently operating systems in place in California and Toronto, as examples. The transponder will be read at anything upwards of 100 mph. No other technology will support that kind of interrogation.  RFID is considered to be a relatively expensive technology, and therefore the value proposition that needs to be established in order to justify the investment in the infrastructure, is a critical one and thus the need to identify precisely what the benefits are that one is looking for. We don’t see it as a displacement technology, particularly as it pertains to something as simple and inexpensive as barcode. I think where barcode works well it should be utilized; where you require functionality that can’t be met by barcode, or one of the other traditional Auto ID technologies, then certainly there is a solid argument for RFID.”

CEOCFOinterviews: How did people look at you when you started to make the readers that would read everybody’s tags?

Mr. Horwitz: “Initially, we were regarded by some as heretics. Once one positions oneself to be able to interrogate another company’s tags, one has to first and foremost overcome the perception that you are creating direct competition. We needed to create a level of comfort that we were not looking to cannibalize anybody else’s business, but that our intentions and motives were absolutely clear and pure, and that the aim of the exercise was to promote compatibility because of the lack standards. It is the on-going lack of standards, which is undeniably the single largest hurdle to the widespread implementation of RFID. I think that we were successful in convincing the vast majority of tag vendor companies that even though they might continue to design and develop reader products of their own, (that were capable of reading only their tags exclusively),  that there was an alternative marketing strategy for them. They could embrace the market potential for a reader that was capable of reading theirs, and other tag products.

One of the most compelling issues is that if you are involved in an industry and a market that is mutually exclusive, then if there are multiple companies that are pursuing a piece of business, clearly only one can win. This means that all of the others will lose; and they not only lose the initial order, but they lose forever because if the end-user then adopts or purchases a network of devices that are capable of reading only one protocol, that being the winning vendor’s, then all of the loser vendors are excluded on a go-forward basis. We suddenly make possible an environment in which if the end-user deployed our technology, then regardless of the companies from whom they purchased the first batch of tag products, they are free to change on a go-forward basis. It brings about a more traditional business model, whereas with other products, the end-user has the right to change as circumstances change. We are involved in an area of technology that is emerging and developing at an extremely high rate and fast pace. I think it is unreasonable to believe that whoever it is that is going to invest in an RFID system, does not want to be excluded from taking advantage of all of the exciting developments that are taking place on an ongoing basis. The very essence of our architecture is one which supports migration to changing technologies as they become available.”

CEOCFOinterviews: Are your products compatibly priced?

Mr. Horwitz: “This is a company dedicated to providing reader products and interrogation tools in this area. We are extremely competitive from a pricing point of view. It is clear that any proposition to support the flexibility and modularity would ‘fall-on-deaf-ears’ if there was a huge premium that was attached. Because we have found ways of engineering products that do not carry a premium, we think that our proposition is even more competitive.”

CEOCFOinterviews: It seems to me the question is why not get your product if it has the capability?

Mr. Horwitz: “Exactly! We are the safest and most cost effective choice, by virtue of the fact that it really is the greatest safeguard against premature obsolescence.”

CEOCFOinterviews: How do you sell and to whom are you selling?

Mr. Horwitz: “Initially, the industry has been one that, in its evolution, has been addressing high volume large-scale applications, and we are caught up in that business model. We decided about nine months ago that it was time to change and because of that, we have gone out and aggressively started building a network of value added resellers that have entree to very specific geographic markets and specific application markets. We have again changed somewhat the methodology that has historically been embraced. We are finding the approach we have taken over this past six or seven months is starting to pay off. I would say that one of our better-known relationships was with International Paper Company (NYSE: IP), with whom we formed a relationship a few years ago; they selected us as their prime resource RFID reader product, by virtue of our philosophy and positioning. They embraced the compelling nature of the argument for multi-protocol/multi-frequency architecture.”

CEOCFOinterviews: Can you tell us a little about you facilities, the development and manufacturing of your products?

Mr. Horwitz: “There is an enormous amount of customization involved. In essence we are a company that was founded in Canada, therefore our head office is in Canada and we maintain an administrative office in Toronto. Our principal facility is in Durham, North Carolina, just outside of Research Triangle Park, where we maintain our engineering activities and most of the resources that we require. We produce small quantities internally, but we subcontract bulk manufacture to various companies with whom we have established relationships over time. We initially started off out-sourcing all of our technical development work, but ultimately, by virtue of the fact that we monopolized the resources of the company that we were using, acquired that company a few years ago and essentially that entity has become the core of our now internal technology development group.”

CEOCFOinterviews: Can you tell us about the implementation process and if the architecture is set up for any add-ons or upgrades?

Mr. Horwitz: “The key to our architecture is that it is modular in nature. The manner in which that is accomplished is the architecture supports the addition of modules if and when they become necessary. Because of the complexity of the technology, whereby it may well be that certain products are better suited to one frequency vs. another, perhaps at the stage of initial implementation there is simply a single frequency reading, or interrogation, environment created. The architecture will support the addition of other modules as and when or if, they become needed. As frequencies are added, as protocols are added, and as other changes take place to the interrogation environment, there certainly is the potential for additional and on-going supply.   It’s typically not going to be a one shot deal. Unfortunately, the industry and technology itself, is at such an early stage that we don’t yet have the track-record by which to determine what will and won’t be happening on a go-forward basis. We have a good idea of what we think will happen, but as the industry matures, I think a lot of this will shake out in the reality of day-to-day applications.”

CEOCFOinterviews: Are there government regulations regarding the radio frequency usage?

Mr. Horwitz: “Very much so! The worst part about it is that it changes on a jurisdiction-by-jurisdiction basis, so each country has its own sovereign right to establish, regulate and determine, not only which frequencies can be used but the power levels at which they can be used. The power level has a direct impact on the functionality because the higher the power the longer the range. Each application and installation has to be evaluated within the context of what is permitted in that jurisdiction.”

CEOCFOinterviews: At this point do you go out and look for new places that your products will be valuable?

Mr. Horwitz: “That is what the resellers do. They invariably operate within a geographic area and within certain vertical markets. Clearly, they know the needs of their customers far better than we do. In order to be successful, one has to understand the dynamics for any specific market for which one is providing solutions. We continue to work very closely with these companies in order to address the specific needs of their constituency. Because of the fact that the technology is so multi-faceted, it’s a regular occurrence that one sees the ability to fine-tune a certain device to do one thing in one environment and something entirely different in another environment.”

CEOCFOinterviews: What role do patents play for SAMSys?

Mr. Horwitz: “There is an element of intellectual property protection that is defensive in nature; in other words, protective of what it is that you have created. I think it is equally defensive to use that intellectual property in order to establish competitive differentiation. By protecting one’s unique intellectual property, you clearly establish what it is that you and you alone are capable of doing. There is a completely different side to the issue and that is that in the final analysis, whatever intellectual property one has protected, it really only has value if one can take it out into the market place and leverage what you have through deployment. I think that for us it is a motivator to recognize that we have created something that is novel and unique, but that we now need to get out there and ensure that there is a commercial value to that intellectual property. That is clearly distinct from just sitting back on it and using it as a threat against others such that it is never deployed.”

CEOCFOinterviews: Do you need to reach the public and the business community, and if so, how do you get the story out about RFID and SAMSys?

Mr. Horwitz: “Yes, both! There is a business community, that is the end-user community of this particular technology and clearly there is a need to educate. While it is not something that we can do single-handedly, we certainly participate in a number of initiatives in order to get the comfort level with RFID to as high a level as possible. Publicity, coverage and   telling the story is a terribly important part of that process. There are trade shows and we are active participants in those shows.

We are also a sponsor of the MIT AUTO ID CENTER, which has been established under the auspices of MIT, to develop a forum within which both vendors, integrators and end-users of RFID technology convene to address issues of mutual concern. They will discuss, reach agreements and define operational requirements and specifications, and that is the kind of dialogue that is extremely valuable. As a public company, we are equally keen to see the story get out to the public at large. Those that use the technology on a daily basis don’t necessarily know it to be the technology that they are using. The idea is to have them become interested to the point that they are prepared to invest in companies that are active in this particular field.”

CEOCFOinterviews: What is your current cash and/or credit position?

Mr. Horwitz: “We are a company that has always been funded through equity financing. Last year, we completed a significant private placement with a company in the U.K. called BTG which is the world’s largest intellectual property management company. They have been involved in the RFID field for a number of years and believe that our strategy, approach and philosophy surrounding RFID, was the most practical, the most appropriate and certainly the most attractive for them to participate in. They took up a very significant equity position within the company. Right now, we are in the fortunate position of being comfortably liquid although we continue to consume our equity and liquidity base on an on-going basis until such time, as we reach cash-flow neutrality. This is a position that we believe we will reach by the end of the current year. We hope and believe that we will see a transition to a more consistent and reliable revenue stream by the end of this year, to the extent that we don’t continue to have to issue additional equity in order to fund our operation.”

CEOCFOinterviews: Do you see acquisitions in the future?

Mr. Horwitz: “Very much so! We see this as being an industry that is ‘ripe’ for and desperately in need of rationalization and consolidation, and we are currently evaluating a number of opportunities. We see ourselves as being extremely well positioned to be the consolidator because of our, what we term as, “technology agnostic positioning.” Because we have no ‘axe to grind’ in so many key areas pertaining to the technology, both at the protocol and frequency level, we could easily integrate into our operation a number of entities that own intellectual property specific to one or the other area.”

CEOCFOinterviews: What are your final thoughts for shareholders and potential investors?

Mr. Horwitz: “This is an industry that by all accounts we are beginning to see more coverage of and therefore greater reinforcement of this fact: We are at the inflection point in the growth curve of RFID. The efforts that have been made by the MIT Group have reinforced the demand and the desirability of RFID as a technology. I think we will see the kind of implementation and the scale of implementation, that we who have been involved in the industry for eight or nine years, have believed was going to materialize. I don’t believe it is a question of if, but only a question of when.”

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