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Socket
Communications, Inc. 37400 Central Court
Kevin J. Mills Interview conducted by: CEOCFOinteriviews.com BIO OF
PRESIDENT & CEO
Kevin J. Mills
was appointed President and Chief Executive Officer and a director of Socket
Communications on March 22, 2000. He previously served as Socket's Chief Operating Officer
since September 1998. Mr. Mills joined Socket
Communications in September 1993 as Vice President of Operations, and has also served as
its Vice President of Engineering. Prior to
joining Socket Communications, Mr. Mills worked from September 1987 to August 1993 at
Logitech, Inc., a computer peripherals company, serving most recently as its Director of
Operations. He received a B.E. in Electronic
Engineering from the University of Limerick, Ireland. ABOUT
SOCKET
Socket provides innovative and
easy-to-use connectivity solutions for mobile computer users. Recent product introductions from Socket include
the first data pager for Windows, the first bar code scanner wands and laser scanners
integrated with plug-in cards, the first Windows CE compatible Ethernet adapter, and the
first CompactFlash CF cards for Pocket PCs. All of Sockets I/O adapters
are "Battery Friendly" they consume less power than any other products in
their class. This can be a crucial advantage in a mobile computing environment, where
energy efficiency means less time wasted changing batteries or looking for AC outlets and
more time spent doing productive work. Sockets
plug-in cards are compatible with a broad range of operating systems, including Windows
CE, Windows 95, Windows NT, DOS, Unix, Linux and Mac OS. Socket offers custom I/O adapters
to OEMs who require special cabling options, O/S support or additional communication
protocols. Bluetooth Bluetooth
is the codename for a technology specification for small form factor, low-cost,
short-range radio links between mobile and stationary PCs, mobile phones and other
peripheral devices. Bluetooth will enable
users to connect a wide range of computing and telecommunications devices easily and
simply, without the need to buy, carry, or connect cables.
It delivers opportunities for rapid ad-hoc connections, and the possibility of
automatic, unconscious connections between devices. Socket's Personal Network Card is a
CompactFlash CF I/O Type I Bluetooth adapter. It meets Socket's standard for low
power "Battery Friendly" power consumption and uses a "radio on a
chip" from one of our development partners. Expected availability is the first
quarter of 2001 Digital Phone Card - Plug Into
Wireless Connectivity CEOCFOinterviews Mr. Mills,
please give us a brief history of Socket Communications, and tell us where you are today. Mr. Mills Socket was incorporated in
1992, and we were an early participant in the mobile computing space with notebooks. In 1992, we developed some early PC cards and we
made the worlds first Ethernet card in a PC card form factor. In 1996, we changed our focus from notebooks to
handheld computers. Handhelds have remained
our focus since then. We worked closely with Microsoft, HP, IBM and Motorola in proposing to
the Compact Flash Association that the Compact Flash form factor, which was a memory only
form factor until that time, be extended to include IO functions. We then converted a number of products we had into
the CompactFlash form factor. Today we are
the leading provider of Compact Flash IO products in the handheld computing space. CEOCFOinterviews What is your
most recent and exciting news? Weve recently
shipped our Bluetooth connection card, in
Compact Flash form factor. This Card allows
you to add Bluetooth into an existing
handheld pocket PC, dial-up wirelessly via Bluetooth enabled phone, and go from there to
the Internet. We believe in what we like to
call a virtual single body solution, and we think that people generally want
mobile phones that are increasingly smaller, lighter, and with a longer battery life. Another desire is for a small handheld computer to
connect to the web. You are kind of stuck
with a dilemma whereby if you take the mobile phone and the PDA or handheld device, and
crush them together, you end up with a device that is too big for the user, or too heavy,
or the screen size is too small. Our way of
solving this problem is to make a connection using Bluetooth between your small mobile
phone and your PDA. On your PDA side you have
a big color screen, a full web browser and your PIM functions. Then you essentially use your mobile phone as a
battery powered wireless modem. You get to
use the same air minutes from your carrier and you receive one bill, and the overall
experience allows you to still have a small PDA and a small phone. Obviously there will be times when youll
need both, and there will be times when youll need just one. Not having them all in one physical shell allows
you to separate them and we feel better meets most needs.
Another observation is that it is always difficult to pick the wireless technology
that you want to support, whether it is GSM, CDMA, iDEN, WCDMA or GPRS. With the solution we are proposing, the Bluetooth
card will talk to any Bluetooth enabled device. Therefore,
if you need to have a GSM phone, you would buy a Bluetooth enabled GSM phone. Likewise, if you are on the Sprint Network, you
would buy a Bluetooth enabled CDMA phone. This
gives the user tremendous flexibility to actually use their current devices while they are
mobile, without requiring special bills or special devices. CEOCFOinterviews Is the
Bluetooth card a product of your own research and development? Mr. Mills
The Bluetooth solution is a result of collaboration
between hardware and software partners and our very own R&D. Weve been working on it for about two years,
and we provide a complete solution, which includes the hardware and the protocol stacks
all the way up to the user interface. We also
provide to the development community the developer kits that allow them to write
applications to use the personal network that will be created by Bluetooth. CEOCFOinterviews Are there any
other new products on the horizon? Mr. Mills
Weve also produced a series of laser scanners that
plug into your Pocket PCs. These devices
allow you to take a standard handheld computing device, plug in a CompactFlash Laser
Scanner and you can use the device to collect data. We
see many applications in the medical side of the world and in the field sales and
inventory management areas. People want to go
out and collect inventory information, check pricing and record the goods that they are
working with. Over the last number of years,
bar coding has become almost ubiquitous and almost every item that one picks up today has
a bar code. Originally, the bar codes
were put on either for the government or for our distributors benefit. Now they are everywhere, companies are using them
to improve their own processes and profits. Using
a small handheld computer with a long battery life is ideal for collecting data and
synchronizing that also backs up some larger databases. CEOCFOinterviews What
percentage of your revenue do you put towards R&D? Mr. Mills
Currently were putting about eighteen percent of our
revenue into R&D. We are just at the
break-even stage, but long term on a higher revenue base we would like to continue to be
putting ten to twelve percent of our revenue into R&D. CEOCFOinterviews Is your
product pipeline built through acquisitions as well as R&D? Mr. Mills
Up until today weve primarily done our own R&D. Weve recently acquired an engineering
company to increase our engineering resources. The
other thing that is happening is that as the leading provider of Bluetooth solutions to
the handheld market, we are getting many inquiries from appliance vendors who want to
communicate with the handheld device via Bluetooth, but dont necessarily want to get
into the business of Bluetooth. They have
asked us for our help with installing modules, or Bluetooth enabling their appliances. The engineering team that we acquired through
Third Rail Engineering gives us the capability to service many of these requests. CEOCFOinterviews Are mergers
and acquisitions a part of your growth strategy? Mr. Mills
The complexity of the solutions that are required today,
where there are many things to address, requires
you to team with other people, and we have many partnerships that we have developed over
the last few years. Otherwise, the user
experience can become so difficult that the users cant really deal with it. As part of that strategy, we come across
opportunities where a merger or acquisition makes sense, and we are looking at these all
the time, but our main focus is to provide something to the end user that actually is easy
to use, regardless of how complex the technology behind it is. For that to happen, there needs to be tight
integration, because most people dont have the time or the desire to assemble
products on the kitchen table. They just want
their stuff to work. CEOCFOinterviews How do you
reach the end user with your product? Mr. Mills
We primarily sell through distribution. Therefore, our products show up in the Comp
USAs of the world. In terms of
educating and dealing with the users, we are able to use the web to do that, but the
fulfillment is through normal distribution channels.
Companies such as Amazon.com and Beyond.com carry our products, so they are easy to
buy online. There is also a lot of
referral business. We are listed on the HP, the Compaq, and the Casio web pages as well as
Microsoft web page as a solution provider for various types of applications. CEOCFOinterviews How is your
product manufactured? CEOCFOinterviews What is your
burn rate? Mr. Mills
In terms of cash, we are just about at break-even
operations. In the third quarter of 1999, we
had a positive fifty thousand dollar operating profit.
We still have some non-cash charges to do with the compensation we give to
non-employees through stock options that were granted some time ago. In addition, we will have amortization charges
from the acquisition of Third Rail. On a cash
basis, I would say that we are cash neutral right now, and we expect to be profitable for
2001. CEOCFOinterviews Which of your
products currently produce the greatest revenue? Mr. Mills
In terms of how our revenue is mixed, we do have a legacy
business, which is Serial and Ethernet PC cards, and we are the largest producer of Serial
cards in the world. In 1999, maybe eighty
five percent of our revenue came from that base. In
2000, forty five percent of our revenue came from that base and fifty five percent came
from the Compact Flash Form Factor, which is today used exclusively in handhelds. There are four product categories for Compact
Flash cards. We have a digital phone card,
which allows you to connect an existing PDA to an existing mobile phone with a cable,
dial-up, get your e-mail and cruise the web, using the same minutes that you currently
have on your cell phone voice plan. We also
have an Ethernet card that allows you to connect to a network and active sync over the
local network regardless of your location. Our
CompactFlash laser scanner cards are perfect for a user to scan bar codes for inventory
management and asset tracking. The revenue
base for CompactFlash based products has gone from approximately one million dollars in
1999, to six million dollars in 2000, and thats the part of the business which is
growing rapidly. CEOCFOinterviews What is your
market share in the various categories? Mr. Mills
We are market leaders in all categories. In the scanning business, we have the only
CompactFlash laser scanner card, aptly called the In-Hand Scan Card (ISC) available in the
market today. The ISC and a Pocket PC
together provide a unique bar code scanning solution for mobile workers, actually needing
only one hand to hold a Pocket PC and a laser scanner to scan bar codes. In the Ethernet market, we are one of maybe three
manufacturers, and we possibly have fifty percent or more of the market share. In the digital phone card market, we manufacture
the only product currently available in the market and have been shipping to companies
such as Sprint and Bell Mobility in Canada, as well as selling through the Amazons of the
world. We are early to the party and we
expect more people to come into the market as it grows, but today we think market share is
less relevant. All of our market shares are
in or above the fifty percent range. CEOCFOinterviews Which of your
products do you project to be the greatest revenue producer of the future. Mr. Mills
Bluetooth and scanning cards are both leading candidates. We think that the digital phone cards over time
will be superseded by Bluetooth. The whole
segment of handheld computing is just starting. The
numbers from IDC suggest that maybe two to three times as many handheld computers will be
sold in 2001 as were sold in 2000, which was already double what was sold in 1999. Very important is the expandability of these
devices. Whereas before, handhelds were
primarily used for organizing your calendar, they can do a great deal more. For example, Pocket PCs today are a full MP3
player, full web browser, have pocket versions of Word and Excel, plus all of the PIM
functions. Therefore, you have a great deal
of processing power which people want to use. From
the manufacturers point of view, its not really possible to put in all of the
types of peripherals and accessories that the users want, so in the short term I think
much of the peripheral business comes our way. We
also work with the manufacturers to make available certain features that are required over
time, and we continue to add features that are not built in. Up
until now the Palm handheld has not supported expansion and as an expansion peripheral
manufacturer, we dont have any sales in the Palm arena. Palm announced late fourth quarter that they
intended to support industry standard expansion as of the middle of 2001, and we will have
products that will work and plug into the new Palm units.
We are working closely with Palm to ensure that these products work well for the
end user. That again will add to our
potential revenue base, as we support the Palm series of products. CEOCFOinterviews What is your
strategy for crisis management? Mr. Mills
We are somewhat unusual in that weve been through a
number of crisis periods already. We went
public in 1995 on a wireless initiative which essentially didnt work, and we built
the equivalent of a complete WAP environment, including servers, receive and send software
and were attempting to sell it to the notebook market.
We had customers like Apple, Dell, GTE Wireless, and we discovered that people do
not carry notebooks with them as a mobile device. They
carry them more as a mobile desktop, which requires set-up.
Therefore, we found ourselves in 1996, with little money and a strategy that we
came to realize was not working. We then had
to both retrench and start again, which in Silicon Valley doesnt happen very often. Usually you get one bite of the cherry and
thats it. We went through some very
lean and hard times, but managed to hold our team together and over the last three years
have repositioned the company into a new growing and exciting market. We still have the same people who have learned the
hard lessons of the consequences of getting it wrong. CEOCFOinterviews Is there any
final thought that you would like to leave with potential investors and current
shareholders? Mr. Mills
The handheld computer is really going to revolutionize the
way we do business, much like the way mobile phones did.
There are some inflection points that happen along the way and in many ways we look
back at the mobile phone market for clues. When
phones really started to take off was when the device became small enough that it
wasnt a conscious effort for you to carry the phone around. Most of the time today when we have a phone with
us, its not really a burden to us. In
many ways, mobile computing has to go through the same transformation. As the devices get smaller, it then becomes
part of the overall persona that you have. The
virtual networks that we are able to create on your body with Bluetooth will allow you to
have the same sense of freedom. Therefore,
when you want to look something up, all you have to do is ask your handheld, and not care
about the mechanics, that its going through your mobile phone. It will just seem like its always connected and
always there. As a result, I believe that you
will see some exciting growth in the handheld space in the coming months and years. As a leader in serving the handheld space with
connection products, we look to benefit from the growth. Socket Communications, Inc. - the
leading supplier of connectivity products for mobile devices Technology Communications Peripherals INTERVIEW ON: Socket Communications, Inc. NASD: SCKT Market Cap: $125.00 (Mil) Michael Davis Buckman, Buckman & Reid, Inc Interview conducted by: CEOCFOinteriviews.com January 2001 CEOCFOinterviews Mr. Davis, please share some
of your career highlights with us. Mr. Davis I
started with Value Line in 1959, and I had direct contact with Mr. Arnold Bernhard, who
founded the Value Line. This was a valuable
experience because my schooling had been in the sciences and music, but not in finance. I was at Value Line for about five or six years
and then went on to a number of Hedge Fund experiences with A.W. Jones, Hedge Fund of
America, and Marathon Securities, controlled by the New York-based Scheuer family. After that, I worked at Anchor Corporation, which
is now part of Capital Research. Anchor
Corporation founded one of the first Mutual Funds, Fundamental Investors. From there, I went to Merrill Lynch, to manage the
Special Value Fund, which was their small and emerging growth stock fund. In 1989, I went off on my own after an aborted
attempt to establish a mutual fund group for Multi-Bank Financial, which was later
acquired by Bank Boston. Ive been
working independently as a Micro Cap Analyst for the past eleven years, trying to find low
multiple stocks that have a great deal of future potential. CEOCFOinterviews Why should an Investor or
Shareholder be excited about Socket Communications (NASD: SCKT)? Mr. Davis
Socket is a very unique company. It is
probably the only company that we know that can benefit from all of the trends that are
converging among wireless, handheld devices, mobile computing and the new Bluetooth
technology. Socket is really at the epicenter
of all this. Those who have been following
the computer industry know that there has been a slackening off in PC sales, and that the
handheld segment is probably the one computer area in which we currently can see a
long-term horizon of rapid growth. Computer
usage has migrated from desktops, to laptops, and now to pocketsize devices. People who travel are tiring of carrying heavy
laptops weighing seven to nine pounds. Instead,
they can now take a pocket size devicea PocketPC or a PalmPilot. Socket was founded in
the early 1990s to serve the connectivity needs of mobile devices, and it has continued to
develop its product offerings in sync with the evolution of the industry. They were one of the few companies that started to
work on Windows CE, back in 1997, when Microsoft (NASD: MSFT) was developing this radical
modular operating system for use in miniaturized smart devices. Windows CE can combine
various elements modularly to match the kind of device that you wantit doesnt
come loaded, as most PCs do today, with lots of stuff we may never use. With Windows CE, the operating system is much more
streamlinedthis means that you can include just the parts that you wantbut
devices using this operating system are still compatible with Windows-based PCs and
laptops. Its important to realize that
there is a tremendous installed base compatible with Windows CE. When Socket got involved with Windows CE, it
was just a gleam in someones eye. We
dont think anyone, even Bill Gates realized how big the market might be. The first version on Windows CE didnt
have many applications and the Graphic User Interface (GUI) was not very good. Version 2.x added color with more applications
and was a better device all around. But with
Version 3.x, called the PocketPC, Microsoft has really developed a killer app, in my
opinion. Its now giving the PalmPilot a
run for its money. Things have radically
changed in the last three years from the stand point of Microsofts foray into the
handheld market. It is now a formidable
competitor, and I think International Data Corporation (IDC) sees the Microsoft Windows CE
operating system ascending to near equality with Palm within a couple of years, for use in
handheld devices. Socket was one of only two
companies involved with Windows CE in 1997, the other being BSQUARE Corporation (NASD:
BSQR), which just went public about a year ago. Most
of what BSQUARE does is contract work for Microsoft, engineering work on Windows CE, and
it is not a direct competitor of Socket. Sockets
focus is on how to get the devices to work in tandem with others, the connectivity aspects
of it. CEOCFOinterviews Has Socket had any other
partnerships that you would like to mention. Mr. Davis
Socket has or has had important partnerships with Hitachi (NYSE: HIT), Hewlett
Packard (NYSE: HWP), Compaq (NYSE: CPQ), Motorola (NYSE: MOT) and Symbol Technologies
(NYSE: SBL), which is an important one because it involves the combination of handheld
devices with scanners. There is also the
Sprint partnership, in which Sprint is including Sockets Digital Phone Cards in its
kits for wireless business applications. And
of course, the sales relationship with Targus International (privately held). CEOCFOinterviews Please give us your thoughts
on Sockets sales strategy. Mr. Davis They
are building up their sales team. Their sales
approach used to be pull, rather than push, where pull refers to
selling things off the distributors shelves, and push, as the word implies, means
selling through the concerted efforts of an integrated sales team. In the past year, Socket has really gotten into
sales-push in a big way. They are trying to
make sure that their products are known in the market place. Obviously, its not much good if you have a
great product if nobody knows that its there. That
is why the previous question about partnerships was so loaded: because they are a small
company, they need to be able to convince other companies that are many times their size
of the value of their products, and to work with them. Their sales effort has
improved immeasurably in the past year, and I think it is still gaining momentum. Socket has traditionally been a highly
techno-centric company. Their technology is
unparalleled as far as we are concerned. There
are very few small companies with this kind of techno-centricity and are able to map out
an effective sales strategy. You can have
great technology, but you have to sell it. And
I think that recent changes in their sales team and the composition of their board of
directors reflect increasing savvy in the sales area.
However, these evolutionary steps take time. For
instance, the Digital PhoneCard has been rolling out since the fall of 1999, and its
just starting to take off. After signing
contracts with Socket, Sprint took what seemed like forever to get the product into their
flagship stores, and they still havent said yet what they are going to do, if
anything, in their Radio Shack kiosks. I
suspect that other phone companies will also use this product because it builds airtime
and it is really the best all around solution from the standpoint of cost, reliability and
efficiency. Mobile devices are powered
by batteries, so users will go for ancillary products that conserve battery power, and
Sockets products do just thatthey are the best on the market from that
standpoint. CEOCFOinterviews How are Sockets
products manufactured? Mr. Davis - They
dont manufacture anythingthey do some testingbut everything is produced
overseas. Their procurement is brilliant;
they have this down to a science. They
maintain plenty of relationships with overseas suppliers in order to outsource product
manufacture on a tight schedule. They apparently have this fine tuned very well. They are
not going to have to build any new plants, or likely run short of capacity. This may change when and if Socket becomes a
billion dollar company. Then they may
want to do something different, but for the present and foreseeable future I think that
its a perfect way to run this enterprise. CEOCFOinterviews How has research and
development spending affected the company, and its future? Mr. Davis In
the first few years of Sockets existence, they spent themselves into poverty by
maintaining an outsize R&D budget. Today,
they are at breakeventhey could have broken even a year or more ago, but they spent
the money on R&D, and sales and marketing, which I think was the right thing to do,
while holding the line on G&A. I think
that this is important to remember when seeing that the Company lost three cents a share
in 2000, and eleven cents a share in 1999; those losses could have been a lot lower, and
Socket could have even been profitable in 2000, had they not spent the money to make a
better company. By late 1999, management knew
that they had sufficient funding to do this, so they werent concerned about showing
modest losses at the bottom lineand I think that they did absolutely the right
thing. They continued to spend heavily on
R&D and sales in the third and fourth quarters of last year, during which they posted
nominal breakeven results. This allowed the
concurrent continuation of work on several major R&D programs, which will produce a
number of major products that we think will eventuate in accelerating top line growth over
the next several years. The whole idea was to
underwrite these projects with their total resources, which is exactly what theyve
done, and that pleases me to no end. CEOCFOinterviews Will Sockets research
and development produce any new products that will enhance their revenue potential. Mr. Davis
Bluetooth is one major project that they are working on, and is a technology that
will enable all kinds of devices to connect on the fly, which is really the major
attraction of it. With Bluetooth, you may
also have four different computers, on different floors and hook them up cordlessly,
including assorted peripherals; but the best thing about Bluetooth is being able to
connect on the fly. While these modules will
be embedded in many of the big stationary devices such as printers and scanners, the real
near-term impetus will derive from use by handheld devices.
Socket should benefit greatly from this technology, since after all, it is the
leading supplier of connectivity products for mobile devices including PDAs (Personal
Digital Assistants), handhelds and notebooks. They
will be bringing Bluetooth adapter modules to the market in the first half of 2001 in a
limited way, and by 2002 their bluetooth product offerings will be in full swing. I think one of the big things
that the market doesnt quite realize is that Palm has come under siege. Palms management has read the reviews of
the Pocket PC, and they feel very vulnerable. What
they are doing to protect their market share is putting in a slot called SD I/O, which
stands for Security Device Input/Output. This
slot will essentially enable their products to have a memory boost as well as give them
improved connectivity possibilities like Bluetooth. Palms
operating system is not modular but unitary. It
was meant to do very simple things, such as keeping addresses and telephone numbers. As the popularity of the device grew, it began to
include more features, but consequently became more complex and contrived. The Palm operating system has built-in
limitations, but to make everything backward compatible it basically has been retained. It is also not a multi-tasking device like the
Pocket PC. On a Pocket PC, you can do two or
three things at once, just as on a regular PC, but you cant do that on a Palm PDA. However, the principal point about this SD I/O
slot is that it will enable Palm products to do many of the things that the Windows
devices can already do. And for those people
who are devotees of Palm, these enhanced capabilities may be a deciding factor in sticking
with Palm instead of migrating to PocketPC.
Essentially, it gives Palm a new lease on life.
But from Sockets standpoint, it gives the Company entree to a huge PDA area
that they didnt have before. So now it
doesnt make any difference which way the market goes.
Whether it goes Windows CE, or Palm OS, Socket is involved. They are immersed in virtually the entire handheld
market nowwe couldnt say that a year ago, or even six months ago. As well, Socket is very much involved
technologically in establishing the SD I/O standard itselfin how it
operatesjust as it has been instrumental in setting standards in the CompactFlash
area. In December, Dell announced that they
were going to establish a special division for handhelds. It seems to me that they are going to include
handheld devices as part of their total enterprise solutions, and sooner or later that
will have to involve Socket, either embedded or not.
Indirectly Dell is telling the market where future growth is. IDC thinks that worldwide handheld device
production, excluding so-called smart phones and vertical application devices, will be
approaching 20 million units annually by 2003.
It seems to me that most of these devices will ultimately have to be connected in
some fashion. This is Sockets
bailiwick-they consummately understand connectivityreally its the only thing
theyve been doing right along. CEOCFOinterviews What is the revenue
potential of the handheld area? Mr. Davis
Id like to rephrase your question to What is the revenue potential for connectivity
in the handheld area? The market is so
large that if they execute properly, Socket may be looking at a quarter of a billion
dollars in revenues by 2005. To some extent
it also depends on attach-rates. If for
every ten new handhelds that are sold, one customer buys a phone card or a Bluetooth
module, or an Ethernet card to connect it, that is an attach-rate of ten percent. My projections are based on what IDC has said the
numbers could be for Pocket PCs, looking out three, four or five years. I have not yet included anything for Palms, for it
is still too early to determine how the inclusion of the SD I/O slot will play out. CEOCFOinterviews What would it take Socket to
be extremely successful? Mr. Davis For a
large enterprise to put together what Socket currently has, it would take a lot more than
what the Company is selling forone hundred and twenty-five million dollars. The market was as irrational at the top, when
the stock was selling at over fifty-one dollars, as it was in December 2000, when the
stock was selling at three and a quarter. So
from the investment standpoint, Socket should easily be a winner from current levels,
because if the company doesnt really execute within a year or so I think it will
probably be sold out at significantly higher levels.
However, for the Company to be successful as a going enterprise, it needs to
achieve attach-rates of 25% for the entire handheld market over the next three to five
years. This means that it would
probably have something like over 50% of the connectivity market share for these devices,
if we take into account that not everyone who purchases a handheld may necessarily want to
be connected to other devices. CEOCFOinterviews Is Socket going to be able
to execute their plan so that they have the lions share of all of the handheld
connectivity market? Mr. Davis Yes,
I think so. Even if things dont play
out the way we foresee, the handheld market is becoming so huge and dynamic that the
Company will be just swept along with the prevailing current. Also, we havent talked about cell phones and
how they fit into the handheld picture. Its
complex, but suffice it to say, that the large installed base of these devices is also
contributing to Sockets growth in a very significant way. CEOCFOinterviews What are your estimated
earnings for Socket? Mr. Davis For
2001, Im showing profits of three cents a share.
Earnings will be held back by the need to expand some sales functions in Europe,
which will probably cut down their numbers for this quarter and the next quarter to
nominal breakeven profitability, although sales should continue to grow substantially. In the third and fourth quarters, we show earnings
of a penny a share each. I show them with
eleven cents for 2002, and for 2003, I have them at twenty-seven cents a share. In the many years that Socket
was losing money, the Company still spent mightily on R&D. At five million in sales, theyd have a
million dollars-plus in R&D, and they stuck to that all through that period of unprofitability. One year, they spent twenty-five per cent of
sales. No one was sure if Socket was going
to get the additional money, or where it was going to come from. Once the company grows into a mid-size enterprise,
it should have typical tech operating margins of around twenty percent, margins and it
will then be a different world. The numbers
will really ratchet up as top line growth accelerates.
Margins may be constrained for the next four to six quarters, because the Company
will keep plowing back resources into R&D and sales and marketing. But after that, it should be up-up-and-away for
earnings. I think they could probably do
more than eleven cents for next year if they choose to do so. CEOCFOinterviews What are your valuations? Mr. Davis
Arnold Bernhard always told us, In the best of times you can always look at a
company taking on one times its earnings growth rate as its P/E multiple. Its sort of a rule of thumb that he used as
a yardstick, and he was a stickler for valuations. In Sockets case, we have used
revenue growth in our evaluation, because the bottom line is starting out from virtually a
zero base. In our latest report, we project
revenue growth at 86% annually over the next five years.
We give price targets based on very conservative yardsticks of one-quarter and
one-half the projected annual sales growth rates. The
numbers implied by such calculations work out to $31 and $62 a share, respectively, over a
two- to three-year time horizon. These
numbers of course look ridiculous when compared to current prices, but we firmly believe
that the market has become quite irrational in its current valuation of these shares. Just on a technical basis alone, Socket could move
back to 10 or morethats the magnitude of move we might normally expect from a
stock that has come down more than ninety percent from its high. Stocks did similar things in the 1973/19 74 bear
market. The so-called Nifty Fifty stocks like
Polaroid (NYSE:PRD) and Avon Products (NYSE:AVP) collapsed to levels ninety percent off
their highs, and later tripled from the lows over a relatively short period. The market has behaved similarly before, but the
thing that is different this time, is that the valuations have been more egregious, and
such extreme moves more pervasive. We have to
remember that a fifty percent decline is equivalent to a hundred percent increase,
geometrically. And in Sockets case,
were not talking about a DOT COM that exists on a tenuous business plan, or is
burning itself out of existence. Were
talking about a company that is quite well capitalized and just coming into its own in
terms of generating substantial earnings. CEOCFOinterviews When do you expect their
numbers to go up to the mid-teens? Mr. Davis
Within a year or so. CEOCFOinterviews Please give us your
evaluation of Sockets management team. Mr. Davis I
think their management is absolutely first class. Socket
is an enterprise with people in it that have been involved in running big companies. Dave Dunlap, the CFO, was a partner at a big five
accounting firm. Kevin Mills, their current
President and CEO was at LogiTech, a several billion-dollar company; and Charlie Bass, the
current Chairman, and CEO up until a year ago, is legendaryan extremely well-known
and respected individual within the technology community. He was a professor at USC until
recently, and runs his own incubator firm for small hi-tech companies. Mike Gifford, one of the Co-Founders of Socket,
has always worked on his own. Hes a
real genius, quiet and unassuming. He works
on problems until he gets the answers. These
are people with a big company mind set, although they happen to be running a small
company. In my opinion, the current
management would be comfortable running a three hundred million dollar company or a
billion dollar companyand thats whats so different about Socket, from
most other small companies that I have come in contact with. CEOCFOinterviews What is their market cap? Mr. Davis Since
I issued my latest report on January 2, 2001, the stock has doubled, but has more recently
given back a little. Their current market cap
is about one hundred twenty-five million dollars, based on twenty-three million shares
outstanding. Over time, the capitalization
will expand by about twenty per cent, basically due options, warrants, and a lot of
insider stuff that will likely be converted. CEOCFOinterviews What is the rating that
youve given Socket? Mr. Davis I
have a Strong Buy as my long-term rating, and Accumulate for
the short term, due to the stocks volatility. CEOCFOinterviews What are your final thoughts
to potential investors and shareholders? Mr. Davis Be
patient. Socket has a long way to go from
here. And dont think that either the
rise or subsequent fall in the stock during the great technology bubble is indicative of
the pure fundamentalsit was irrational on both ends.
The Company has bolstered its board of directors by adding people consummately
attuned to the consumer area. Sockets
products have tremendous consumer as well as enterprise appeal. There is a metamorphosis going on that
doesnt happen all at once. Availability
of Sockets products outside of its traditional distribution channels has expanded,
with Amazon.com being added in the second quarter of 2000, and Sprint PCS in the flagship
stores in late third quarter. Targus, which
maintains seven thousand retail storefronts in the U.S., including Circuit City, Best Buy,
Office Max, Staples, Office Depot, Comp USA, and Frys, was also added in the fourth
quarter. D&H Distributing, a nationwide computer products
distributor with strong government and education sales ties was added in the current
quarter. All this adds up to huge exposure
for Socket products in a wide array of marketplaces.
The big question still may remain, Will everything be executed
properly? and that execution does hinge on managements ability to get into
more distribution channels. But, as you see,
this is gradually happening. We have faith
that management will continue to do the right things in this area. |
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