Super Vision International Inc. (SUPVA)
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Brett Kingstone, Chairman, President and CEO
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light-emitting diode (LED) and fiber-optic lighting products, signs and displays for applications in the signage, swimming pool, architectural and retail industries.

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Super Vision International has established a key patent and product position in the growing LED and lighting industry

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Super Vision International Inc.

8210 Presidents Drive
Orlando, FL 32809
Phone: 407-857-9900


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Brett Kingstone
Chairman, President and CEO

Interview conducted by:
Lynn Fosse
Senior Editor

CEOCFOinterviews.com
May 2004

BIO: Brett Kingstone is the Founder and President of Super Vision International Inc. He started his first fiber optic company as a Student at Stanford University. He has been chosen as Entrepreneur of the Year for Orange County and the State of Florida.  Super Vision has been chosen among the Top 50 Fastest Growing Companies in the State of Florida and Top 500 Fastest Growing Technology Companies in the United States. Last month, Super Vision received the Greater Orlando Business Ethics Award, honoring the company and its management for outstanding ethics in its operations. Mr. Kingstone is the author of two books, The Student Entrepreneurs Guide (McGraw-Hill, 1981, introduction by Nobel Prize Winner Milton Friedman) and The Dynamos  (John Wiley & Sons, 1983, introduction by Arthur Lipper III).  His recent book, The Real War Against America (Introduction by Congressman Ric Keller) should be published by year end. Mr. Kingstone holds more than 20 U.S. and international patents on fiber optic and LED lighting products and manufacturing systems. He resides in Orlando, Florida with wife Maisa, daughter Victoria, son Max, dog Luis and cat Kenzo.

Company Profile:
Super Vision International Inc. (SUPVA-NASDAQ) is a designer and manufacturer of light-emitting diode (LED) and fiber-optic lighting products, signs and displays for applications in the signage, swimming pool, architectural and retail industries. The Company derives its revenues primarily from sales of SideGlow® and EndGlow® fiber-optic lighting cables and fiber-optic lighting sources, accessories, endpoint signs and displays and LED lighting systems. It also designs, markets and sells fiber-optically lit waterfalls and water features. These products are primarily marketed and distributed through a network of independent sales representatives and distributors. Super Vision is owned in part by Cooper Industries (NYSE: CBE) and Hayward Industries, major manufacturers of lighting and pool products respectively.

Super Vision's SideGlow® cable is manufactured as a replacement for neon and Super Vision's EndGlow® cable is manufactured for conventional down-lighting and underwater/hazardous area lighting. The patented SideGlow® cable is a side (light) emitting cable composed of several individual strands of PMMA acrylic fibers (also referred to as "plastic fiber optic") covered by a covered by a clear PVC coating. SideGlow® is available in a wide range of diameters and in several models. The fiber strands inside the cable are twisted a round a reflective center core. EndGlow® cable is and end (light) emitting cable that uses the same PMMA acrylic strands as SideGlow® except it is covered in an opaque black or white jacket. EndPoint® fiber is the "raw" fiber sold in individual strands by the spool. Light emits primarily from the end. However light can be observed emitting from the side as well. Super Vision offers many fixtures or light outlet that attach to the end of the cable providing both a mounting system for the cable fixture and a decorative lighting system. The Company’s FlexLED™ is a low voltage, flexable, monochromatic, LED strip designed specially for illuminating channel or backlit letters and logos.

The company has manufactured illuminated landmark projects worldwide including the AT&T Globe and Coca-Cola bottle in New York’s Times Square, the Pepsi-Cola display in Caracas, Venezuela, the airport signage at Moscow’s domestic airport, the Tokyo Dome in Japan, the Conference Palace in Dubai and the Victoria Arts Center Spire in Melbourne, Australia.

CEOCFOinterviews: Mr. Kingstone, will you tell us about your background with Super Vision, where the company was when you started and where you are today?

Mr. Kingstone: “I started Super Vision in a small garage in Orlando Florida with another employee by the name of Roy Archer who is now our Director of Manufacturing. We started the company to build fiber optic systems for Universal Studios and Walt Disney World here in Florida. Today we have grown from two people in a garage to seventy employees in an 80 thousand square foot building in the Orlando Central Park. We have 63 distributors worldwide selling to 70 countries throughout the world. In addition to our fiber optic products, we make a full line of LED (light-emitting diode) lighting products for the signage, the lighting, swimming pool and architectural lighting industry. In addition, we have 93 lighting reps that represent our products in North America to architects, lighting designers, and electrical contractors throughout North America. We have a team of sign and swimming pool sales reps that represent our pool lighting and sign products to sign manufacturers and swimming pool manufacturers throughout North America.”

CEOCFOinterviews: Will you tell us about the industry in general and Super Vision’s place in that industry?

Mr. Kingstone: “We are among the top three manufacturers of LED and fiber optic lighting in the respective markets that we serve. We started out in the entertainment industry where we built custom made displays for Walt Disney, Universal Studios and Sea World. From there, we went public in March of 1994 and used the 10 million dollars of financing we raised to branch out and develop specific commodity products that we can sell on a regular basis to manufacturers of design, lighting and pool industry. That has been our key focus for the last couple of years, developing standardized products that we can sell in large quantities to manufacturers worldwide.”

CEOCFOinterviews: How is that working for you?

Mr. Kingstone: “We have achieved up to 12 million in sales and we are looking at the first quarter of this year as being the best first quarter that we have had in the history of the company. We have been selected among the top fifty fastest growing companies in the State of Florida, and the top 500 fastest growing technology companies in the United States.”

CEOCFOinterviews: Are you doing any custom work now?

Mr. Kingstone: “We will always provide the services to our clients to give them custom made fiber optic or LED products or displays when they want them because we want to be full-service oriented and to always be able to adapt to the needs of our customers. We will be focusing on standardizing product lines that can be utilized in almost any application such as our FlexLED™ system. This is made by the foot and can be installed inside a channel letter to eliminate neon. The market for neon for signage and lighting applications is several billion dollars worldwide. The big advantage of FlexLED is that it can reduce energy and maintenance cost by more than 95%, this yields a big advantage to our customers. We hope that by honing in on product opportunities like these, we can service 90% of the requests with our standard products. Still we see that custom products will be at least 10% or our business in the future. “

CEOCFOinterviews: Where is fiber optic lighting appropriate and where is LED appropriate?

Mr. Kingstone: “That is a good question because people who are experts in the lighting industry are still asking that. The answer to that question continues to evolve as the improvements in LED technology continue to take place. Almost every six months we are seeing a significant increase in the light output abilities of these technologies yielding and increase in light output and a decrease in cost. With each generation of a new LED there are more applications that they become cost effective or bright enough to perform. In general, fiber optics is perfect for when you are going below the water line; it is the best choice for swimming pools since there is absolutely no electricity running through the plastic fiber optic table, only light. It is good for hard to reach areas like the top of a church atrium where you don’t want to have to run scissor lift to change a light bulb. When it comes to back-lighting channel letters for signage, we have gone from being a 100% fiber optically lit, to 100% LED lit. The reason for that is an LED is more cost effective for signage applications than fiber optics and also requires a lot less labor on installations. There are opportunities where the LED will perform better than fiber optics and there are opportunities where fiber optics are preferable for safety reasons as well as installation requirements.”

CEOCFOinterviews: Will you tell us about the manufacturing of your products and inventory requirements?

Mr. Kingstone: “When you speak about inventory, this is a big challenge for any manufacturer in a fast-growing technology business.  I would refer to you the computer chip business of the 1980’s, where every three or four months, the computer chips in inventory became obsolete. We went from the Apple 2-E  to the 286 to 386, the Pentium II to the Pentium IV, to MMX technology and now a completely new line of advanced memory chips that seems to outpace the last version in cost and memory every other month. In the LED field, we have to be cautious about our purchases and inventory to meet demand levels but at the same time avoid having an overstock of LEDs on hand which become obsolete. There has been a tremendous growth and improvement in the manufacturing process of LEDs and it is ongoing. For the next five years, one of the key areas that we need to focus on to insure profitability is proper inventory management. We need to have our sights set on the next generation of LEDs. We need to make sure that we place our orders accordingly so that we don’t wind up with LED components that have to be written off as valueless. “

CEOCFOinterviews: Please tell us about your recent distribution agreements.

Mr. Kingstone: “In the last four or five press releases that you have seen from us in the past month, have been focusing on new international distributors. We have signed up the largest sign supply distributor in the United Kingdom, which is Ashby. Ashby deals with 4,000 sign manufacturers throughout the U.K. and we are happy they chose us as their exclusive supplier for LED products in the sign industry. England is a little behind the technology curve in the sign industry as compared to the United States. Although already successful in the U.S., LEDs are becoming the hot new thing in the UK sign industry and we are glad we have the number one player in that industry, actively promoting and selling Super Vision products. The other press release that you saw was the announcement of Viking Spas signing an OEM agreement with Super Vision. Viking is another big success that Super Vision achieved in the pool and spa industry. Viking is one of the country’s largest manufacturers of hot tubs and spas.

Two other of the four press releases that went out relate to our intellectual property growth and our partnerships, most notably with Artistic Licence in England, which is one of the top developers of software for the lighting industry. We have teamed up with them to develop a new LED control system that we not only plan to use in one another’s respective businesses but also hope to license to third party manufacturers throughout the industry. We feel it would be an excellent opportunity to create an industry standard whereby the industry will all be using the same control system and as a result, the manufacturers can produce a myriad of products that will all interface with a uniform control system. A uniform control system will create a tremendous amount of efficiency. This process can also result in a significant amount of royalty income for Super Vision in the future."

CEOCFOinterviews: Do you deal with the end-user?

Mr. Kingstone: “Not directly; we work through distribution, our rep network, and our domestic and international dealer network. If an end-user calls, we are most likely going to reefer them to a local rep or distributor in their community.”

CEOCFOinterviews: Will you tell us about your patented products?

Mr. Kingstone: “We have more than 27 existing patents in the U.S. and several times that number overseas in our international filings. We have patents on the manufacture of our fiber optic cable, patents on our end products, as well as patents on our fiber optic processes that we use in the lighting industry. Over the last several years, we have been filing patents on our LED manufacturing, products and processes. One patent we recently acquired is a fundamental patent in the industry developed by Richard Belliveau, of High End Systems of Austin Texas. High End is the number one manufacturer of entertainment lighting in the United States for theatres and nightclubs; they generate 60 million dollars a year in revenue. We had an interest in their patent and we were fortunate enough through a relationship with High End to acquire the patent on very favorable terms. This will allow us to have the fundamental foundational patent for the use of color-changing lights in the industry. We intend to continue to develop our LED product line based on this patent but we also want to make this patent available to the industry and license it. We feel there are a tremendous amount of royalties we can generate utilizing this patent. Our position would be more like what JVC did with the VHS technology when they were competing with Sony’s BetaMax, which is to offer a very low, reasonable and fair royalty rate. That way you can encourage manufacturers worldwide to be using this as a standard and we feel confident that there is going to be huge opportunities for Super Vision in that regard.”

CEOCFOinterviews: What sets you apart from your competition?

Mr. Kingstone: “It is our people and our products that set us apart from the competition. Products don’t invent themselves. We have a great team of people on our staff. Every single member of our company is a shareholder; they act like owners, think like owners and they support our customers as owners. It makes a tremendous difference when the customers call in and everyone who answers the phone is a shareholder in the company. It is part of our corporate culture, it is our attitude and dedication to serve people; if we have to come in on the weekends to get the job done, we will. Another factor is that many of our distributors have been with us for more than a decade. Our Japanese distributor has been with us for 12 years and our Icelandic distributor has been with us for 14 years, our Russian distributor has been with us for 10 years and so have many of our South American distributors. The reason why these relationships remain with us all these years is because the service, support, dedication and the quality that we put into our products. It isn’t any secret or magic, just hard work, dedication and most importantly, showing the customers that you care.”

CEOCFOinterviews: Are there areas in lighting that you haven’t tackled yet?

Mr. Kingstone: “There are many. We have brainstorming sessions every week with our engineering team. Sometimes on the back of a napkin, other times on the back of a pizza box, we write a long list of the ideas that we believe will yield tremendous new product offerings for the industry. It is just a matter of having the time to implement them. Usually a week later, we come back and look at the list and we float what we believe are the most viable ideas to the top and focus on that. There is no shortage of new ideas, new products, and new concepts, which we are thinking of everyday at super Vision.”

CEOCFOinterviews: As CEO what is your focus on a day-to-day basis?

Mr. Kingstone: “For an example, I was out with my Brazilian distributor for lunch just before you called. This morning I fielded calls from several of the distributors in Europe. The most important thing I do all day is to listen to my customers and hear what they have to say. I also listen to the end-users who call in with a problem. Sometimes we get our best new marketing ideas by learning what our distributors are doing in one country and then encouraging our other distributors to follow suit in their countries. On time, a European distributor picked up a large order from a chain store that is operating worldwide and wanted to send us photographs of their installation. The next day we e-mailed those photos to all our distributors worldwide and encouraged them to contact the regional managers of that chain store in their countries. Later this afternoon I will be downstairs meting with the engineers on two or three new products that we have developed and one new patent that we will be filing. At seven o’clock tonight I will be heading to the airport to fly to the industry’s largest trade show which is Light Fair in Las Vegas; it starts tomorrow morning and for the next few days we will be meeting architects, lighting designers and customers from all over the world. We will be attending that show, and we will have a booth there and be presenting our products. Before I turn in tonight I will call our Asian distributors to check on their progress.

In my view, a CEO should be out in the market meeting with the customers, seeing how the products are being used, and learning of ways he can improve the products and service. I think any CEO who locks himself in the office is doing a disservice to the company and I would tell you that better than 50% of the time, I am out of the office in the factory or outside with customers or suppliers. I love to visit installations of our products. I always get a thrill when I see our bright lights light up a skyline anywhere in the world. I learn the most when I have the opportunity to get out of the office and see the world through our customers’ eyes, hear their ideas of how we can improve the product and see opportunities where we can develop new products to solve existing problems. The most successful products are the ones that are viewed as solutions for solving existing problems. There you would create a solution that would fill a huge demand as opposed to another ‘me too’ product. The best way we can learn how to service the industry is being out in the market with our eyes and ears open and prepared to listen.”

CEOCFOinterviews: Outsourcing manufacturing overseas is an ongoing problem today. How do you see this affecting the US?

Mr. Kingstone: “In general terms I can see a severe problem to our country and all American manufacturers as a whole. We are now watching American manufacturing becoming a lost art. We are losing millions of jobs overseas; our middle class is evaporating because you don’t become a member of the middle class by working for $5.50 an hour flipping hamburgers or taking tickets at an amusement park. The middle class is built through manufacturing jobs and the backbone of any economy is the manufacturing industries because they are the true creators of wealth in the economy. We are starting to see our very economic foundation collapse in the United States because our government has done a terrible job with international trade policy to the enforcement of our laws such as the Intellectual Property Protection Act of 2002 and the Trade Secret Act of 1996.  American industry is having their lifeblood, their technology, stolen out from under them by Asian competitors like China and the government is turning a blind eye.

The government is doing absolutely nothing to protect our industries. We sign these free trade agreements and allow free trade for our competitors in the U.S. markets but those same competitors do not allow free trade for the American manufacturers in their markets. Our overseas distributors have complained to me that this has made it difficult to sell our products. Washington needs to sit up, take notice and recognize this problem. The well publicized things we seem to be debating right now are really not as big an issue as the absolute economic disaster that is happening before our very eyes. For some reason our government officials are blinding themselves to this. We need to address this. The country needs to be aware of this. We need to make sure we enforce the laws we have and that we don’t sign any agreements unless both parties of the transaction are going to play by the rules. You can’t have free trade unless you have fair trade.”

CEOCFOinterviews: In closing, why should shareholders be interested and what should they know that they might not realize when they first look at Super Vision?

Mr. Kingstone: “To understand the investment opportunity in Super Vision you need to have an understanding of the industry. The LED lighting industry has grown from 140 million in sales just three years ago, to 1.2 billion in sales. That’s a tenfold increase in a three-year period. The industry is exploding; we are in a very historic time in the lighting industry, where we have had the advent of the new technology that is as important as the advent of the light bulb when it replaced the gas lamp in the early nineteen hundreds. Lighting is going to move from a burning incandescent element to a solid state electronic source and that is exactly what LED lighting is. LEDs will continue to go down in price and continue to prove efficiency.  With each advancement in cost and output more new applications for LED lighting will become practical. The day will come soon when instead of screwing in a glass light bulb at home, people will be screwing in an LED laden light bulb that will last five or ten years and also use a fraction of the electricity.

With energy prices where they are today, our country is going to increase its focus on reducing energy consumption. Already in California, there is significant legislation that mandates the reduction of the number of kilowatts consumed by new construction. Already they are limiting the number of kilowatts allowed by the number of square feet in each building. LEDs are going to be seen as a solution to help solve that problem for builders who will realize they are going to have to limit their energy consumption on their buildings and likewise for homeowners and business owners that want to limit their energy costs. I think we are looking at an exciting time in the LED and lighting industry as a whole. A change like this doesn’t take place more than once a century. Super Vision has the key foundational position both from a patent and a product standpoint. With an investment in Super Vision they can participate in the tremendous growth of this industry.”

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