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OTC-BB: TASA

Touchstone Applied SCI

Hardscrabble Heights
Brewster, NY  10509
Phone: 845-277-8100


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Andrew L. Simon
Chairman, President and
Chief Executive Officer

Interviewed conducted by:
Diane Reynolds, Co Publisher

CEOCFOinterviews.com
April 2002

Company Profile:

Touchstone Applied Science Associates (TASA), Inc. provides the educational market with state-of-the-art literacy and assessment tools, including a highly regarded, proprietary line of reading tests – known as the Degrees of Reading power program.

Though its subsidiary, BETA, Inc., TASA evaluates assessment needs for states, school districts, and test and textbook publishers, and designs tests specifically to met clients’ measurement specifications.

Modern Learning Press (MLP), Inc., also a wholly-owned subsidiary of TASA, designs, publishes and distributes top quality “consumable” student materials for the primary grades, and creates and publishes books and pamphlets for elementary school teachers and parents.

The Mildred Elley School, owned and operated by TASA Educational Services Corporation (TESC), also a subsidiary of TASA, is an accredited, degree-granting, post-secondary school with campuses in Albany, New York and Pittsfield, Massachusetts.

TASA is a publicly owned company with shares traded in the NASDAQ small-capitalization over-the-counter market.  The Company is headquartered in Brewster, New York, with regional representatives located throughout the United States providing local customer support.

Ceocfointerviews: Please explain what it is your company does.

Mr. Simon: We are in three different areas of the education business.   We are in the assessment area K -12. In that area we have two different divisions. The proprietary assessment unit has four mainstream products that we sell to states and school districts.  We also have a custom testing unit, called BETA, which provides standard-setting and evaluation services as well as constructs test items and/or custom tests to states and textbook publishers. Over the past 5 years, our staff has played key roles in planning, developing or implementing large-scale testing programs in more than 15 states. Our second division operates in the instructional market. We produce supplemental instructional materials, primarily in the K-5 market, although we are currently expanding into middle school. Our third area is educational delivery to post-secondary proprietary locations.

Ceocfointerviews: So, you actually have schools of your own?

Mr. Simon: That’s correct.

Ceocfointerviews: How are they different from other schools?

Mr. Simon: Our schools are in Albany, New York and in Pittsfield, Massachusetts.  In Albany we operate a two-year granting-degree institution.  It’s difficult to come by degree-granting licensing in New York. We are really in the upper end proprietary post-secondary education.

Ceocfointerviews: What states are you in and what states are you planning on moving into?

Mr. Simon: I believe you are referring to the custom development work of TASA’s subsidiary, BETA. As previously mentioned, we have worked in 15 states over the past 5 years. We are currently working on contracts or multiple contracts in Massachusetts, Connecticut, Virginia, North Carolina, Michigan, Texas, and Minnesota.

Since we will bid on any state’s RFP, it is conceivable that we could be in a half dozen more states at this time next year. We will go to any state where we believe we can deliver a service.

Ceocfointerviews: Where do you get the material as far as what you are testing?  The levels you test, who over sees everything?

Mr. Simon: We have a number of psychometric professionals and project managers on staff, who oversee the development of the tests to our specifications.  We utilize our pool of professional writers to create the test items, based on the state’s specifications.  The interesting history of this business is that assessment is becoming more important on the state level. Five years ago, about 80% of the testing business was on the proprietary side and about 20% was on the custom side.  It has shifted over time—now about 80% of the business is on the custom side.  That is not to suggest that the proprietary side of our business has declined. In fact, we doubled our propriety business over the past six years. In contrast, though, our custom testing business has gone up ten-fold.  If you want to be in the assessment business, this is the time.

Ceocfointerviews: Is there any new or exciting news that hasn’t been published yet that you would like to talk about?

Mr. Simon: Yes, there are three things.   We are just in the process of signing a contract with the state of Indiana for two different projects.  The first project is to print, distribute, and score of their Core 40 tests. Eventually, there will be high school tests on all relevant subject matter. I believe there are a total of 14 tests.  This year Indiana is piloting two of those tests. My sense is, if we do well in this initial phase, we can generate substantial business. That will give us significant volume.  We’re also making an arrangement with them to be the publisher for the Indiana Primary Tests.  Right now, Indiana has a language arts test for Grade 1.  We are helping them create a test for Kindergarten and Grade 2.  We will make those tests available to the state of Indiana and also sell them nationally.  We are excited about these two projects.

The other project that excites us is that we are one of three publishers selected by the state of Utah to provide reading comprehension tests from which Utah school districts can choose the test that they feel is most appropriate.  Approximately 60% of the districts selected our tests. This year, Utah has full-scale testing in Grade 3 and piloting in Grades 4-9. Hence, we think the volume will grow over the next two or three years. 

Ceocfointerviews: What is this company doing to keep ahead of the competition?  What gives you that extra edge?

Mr. Simon: We do two things.  On the proprietary side, we have three tests, all of which provide Year 2000 normative data. The availability of current normative data is particularly relevant for school districts.

Teachers also have access to our Readability of Textbooks via our website at www.tasaliteracy.com. This database contains the DRP readability values of more than 6,000 textbooks in current use. So, teachers can use the results from administering our reading comprehension test—the Degrees of Reading PowerÒ (DRPÒ) test—to select textbooks appropriate to a child’s reading ability.

TASA also markets DRP—>BookLinkÒ, a software program with a database of more than 17,500 fiction and non-fiction books, which enables teachers to search electronically to find appropriate books for each student based upon interest categories and reading ability.

TASA launched its new ESL test in July 2001. It is the state test in Rhode Island and is one of the three tests in New Jersey, Florida and Illinois.  We’ve received a tremendous response from other states in terms of requests for materials and technical information.  That test measures four different skills, reading, writing, listening, and speaking. We see this in a very large market, particularly with the new Title I funding.

We also launched Signposts, which is a comprehensive system designed to provide a unique set of assessments and integrated instructional activities for students in grades K-3, in 2001.   Signposts spans a range of literacy strands—reading, writing, listening, and speaking—and includes a pre-DRP reading test and measurement scale for emergent readers.

What makes us particularly unique on the custom testing side is that we have a lot of senior people that are well seasoned. They match up very well with state program directors, so we are providing them with expert advice. I believe that we have an advantage over other testing companies because we deliver on time and on budget. TASA’s relatively small size—compared to our competitors—means that senior staffs are attached to each project.

Ceocfointerviews: What do you feel has changed in the past year that will affect the future for this company?

Mr. Simon: Our rate of growth has increased rapidly. Take a look at our first quarter. This year, our revenues have increased about 35%.  Last year, we had some significant increases.   I believe we are just hitting our stride. Over the next three years we will have a very significant increase in our sales area.

Ceocfointerviews: The schools you mentioned earlier, your own schools.  Do you see expanding in that area?

Mr. Simon: No, I don’t.  We originally purchased these schools because we thought we could expand in this area. When we went into the marketplace to acquire additional schools, every school we looked at had regulatory problems. We backed off.  The company is currently investigating alternatives to extricate ourselves from this business and to refocus on K-12 assessment and instruction.

Ceocfointerviews: You also have Modern Learning Press, what do they supply?

Mr. Simon: That’s correct, it provides supplemental language arts material in the K-5 marketplace.

Ceocfointerviews: Is this also for the teachers and parents?

Mr. Simon: It’s primarily for classroom teacher’s—supplemental material for them.

Ceocfointerviews: How are you going to broaden your growth if you are not doing so through acquiring additional schools?

Mr. Simon: Our strategy is to continue to expand our custom testing area.  It’s just a matter of timing and pacing so we can maintain our cash flows and our profitability.  Our custom testing business has grown from $300,000 in 1997 to $3 million last year and should be significantly higher this year.

We also are just increasing our pace in our proprietary unit.  Last year we launched our ESL product and added about half of a million dollar in sales—all in three months.  I would be disappointed if we didn’t double that number this year, particularly with the adoption of the test in additional states.  We also have a new Indiana primary test that we are launching sometime this year.  I feel there is plenty of room to grow in the proprietary assessment area.

In the instructional area, we will be broadening our product line beyond language arts. We also will be broadening our line by going into the middle school market place with a new imprint.  We are in the process of executing a publishing plan and investing to launch new titles. We should have nine new titles introduced in the 2002 fiscal year and to continue that level of development into the future.

Ceocfointerviews: Does this company have the cash flow to continue the growth?

Mr. Simon: I think that a small company has to be careful about how they spend money, but one of the nice things about a company in the assessment and instructional area is that our gross profit is in the 70% range.  In the first quarter this year, both our G&A expenses and our selling expenses were flat versus a year ago. So if we have a 35% increase in volume we will generate the sufficient cash to sustain the growth efforts.

Ceocfointerviews:  What would you say to a potential investor?

Mr. Simon: I would tell them that the arena in which we do business—the education arena—is hot.  Assessment is attractive, and there is certainly a lot of interest from people looking into our type of company.  The second thing I would tell investors is that while we are a small company, we are making real profits.  Last year we earned $0.10 a share.  I believe that our revenues as well as our earnings per share will be higher this year. This company is just hitting its stride.

Ceocfointerviews: I think it was about two years ago there had been a lot of emphasis on education and on how we let our children go and now it’s very important because we are finally looking at them as our future. 

Mr. Simon: Well, we like this President. He believes in testing, in measurement, and in accountability.   We did a lot of work in Texas when President Bush was governor.  If the situation in Texas replicates itself across the country, then it’s terrific for us.

Ceocfointerviews: Do you have a closing statement?

Mr. Simon: I believe we are a steady company; we are not going to double or triple our revenues in a year. That just doesn’t happen in education.  However, we will continue to grow at a reasonably rapid pace, and I know we are in this for the long haul. Your readers need to determine if they want to invest in a non-flashy, steady-growth firm that should increase its EPS each year. TASA is such a company.

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