2007 Interview with: Vijay B. Samant, President and CEO - featuring: their vaccines and immunotherapies based on its unique non-viral DNA technology for the prevention or treatment of infectious diseases, cancer, and cardiovascular diseases.

Vical Incorporated (VICL-NASDAQ)

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Vical Incorporated has made substantial progress in the development of their DNV vaccines over the last 12 months with 3 programs now in or about to enter Phase 3 clinical trials and 2 in Phase 2

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Healthcare
Biotechnology & Drugs
(VICL-NASDAQ)


Vical Incorporated

10390 Pacific Center Court
San Diego, CA 92121
Phone: 858-646-1100

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Vijay B. Samant
President and CEO

Interview conducted by:
Walter Banks, Publisher
CEOCFOinterviews.com
Published – February 15, 2007

BIO:
Vijay B. Samant joined Vical as President and Chief Executive Officer in November 2000. Mr. Samant has 23 years of diverse U.S. and international sales, marketing, operations, and business development experience with Merck. From 1998 to mid-2000, he was Chief Operating Officer of the Merck Vaccine Division. From 1990 to 1998, he served in the Merck Manufacturing Division as Vice President of Vaccine Operations, Vice President of Business Affairs, and Executive Director of Materials Management. Mr. Samant earned his M.B.A. from the Sloan School of Management at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 1983. He received a master's degree in chemical engineering from Columbia University in 1977 and a bachelor's degree in chemical engineering from the University of Bombay, University Department of Chemical Technology, in 1975.

Company Profile:

Vical researches and develops biopharmaceutical products based on its patented DNA delivery technologies for the prevention and treatment of serious or life-threatening diseases. Potential applications of the company’s DNA delivery technology include DNA vaccines for infectious diseases or cancer, in which the expressed protein is an immunogen; cancer immunotherapeutics, in which the expressed protein is an immune system stimulant; and cardiovascular therapies, in which the expressed protein is an angiogenic growth factor. The company is developing certain infectious disease vaccines and cancer therapeutics internally. In addition, the company collaborates with major pharmaceutical companies and biotechnology companies that give it access to complementary technologies or greater resources. These strategic partnerships provide the company with mutually beneficial opportunities to expand its product pipeline and address significant unmet medical needs. Additional information on Vical is available at www.vical.com.

CEOCFO
: Mr. Samant, will you tell us about the company?
Mr. Samant: “We are a unique company in the sense that our technology has a variety of applications and we can make the product based on our technology very easily in relatively modest assets that do not require a lot of capital expenditure. Broad applications and reasonable capital expenditures are two very pivotal anchors in terms of making any technology successful. We can apply our technology for vaccines; we can apply it for proteins, animal health applications, cancer. We are focusing on vaccines because vaccines are now probably the single most important medical advance that is going to be required in the next fifty years to deal with a variety of diseases as well as a variety of cancers. We are focused on one of the most lucrative applications of this technology.”

CEOCFO: Are vaccines commonly delivered by DNA technologies?
Mr. Samant: “No, there are a variety of ways to make vaccines and the most conventional way to make vaccines is live attenuated vaccines, killed vaccines and sub-unit protein vaccines. The problems with those technologies are that they take a long time to develop, they are very expensive to develop, and they require a huge amount of expertise that very few companies have. The beauty of our concept is that we don’t need to handle the pathogens. All we need to know is with what the gene sequence is associated. For example, if I am wearing a particular necktie and if that necktie is a distinguishing feature, then all we need to know is the gene sequence for a necktie. We would then code that sequence into the plasmid, inject that into the muscle cell and use the cell’s protein manufacturing factory to make that protein or antigen. With the conventional technologies, you have to make the protein or antigen outside. If you make anything on the outside, it is very expensive to make compared with teaching the body’s own manufacturing factory to make it. You do not handle the pathogen as opposed to when you are dealing with the other technologies; you need to deal with the bug itself in the laboratory; that creates complications in terms of fragility. The bug is a very hard thing to handle, so you need specialized facilities. You then need to make sure it grows correctly and is reproducible. Whereas in our case, all we need is the recipe and you give it in a DNA plasmid form and you can make it over and over again.”

CEOCFO: You have several drugs in Phase 2 and Phase 3 studies; will you tell us where you are in the development of some of your vaccines?
Mr. Samant: “About 18 months ago, we did not have a single program in Phase 3 between us or our partners. We made substantial progress in the last 12 months. We have 3 programs that are either in or about to enter Phase 3. We have 2 programs which are in Phase 2. For a company of our size, that is a remarkable achievement. We have a Phase 3 program for Allovectin-7®, which is a product for melanoma; it is a pivotal efficacy trial, meaning if we meet the endpoints in the trial, the likelihood of getting approval is high. Nothing has been approved in melanoma for many years. This is a frontline therapy and we are excited. Our Phase 2 study in melanoma had shown that our drug was pretty well tolerated. It was given to chemo-refractory patients in an outpatient setting, who take the drug and go home. Most of the current melanoma treatments are pretty toxic and the patients require hospitalization. This is a 375 patient study and we just started recruiting. We are excited because we have the opportunity to provide a safe effective immunotherapy as an alternative to patients, which they do not have right now.

The second Phase 3 study, which is also pivotal efficacy, is being conducted by our partner AnGes MG, Inc., and what they are conducting is a pivotal efficacy study in people who have blockages of arteries in the legs or limbs. If you get blockages in the legs, it leads to ulcers, which are not curable. It leads to very serious pain and difficulty in walking. They are actually injecting at the site of the blockage, a gene encoding an angiogenic growth factor that promotes the growth of blood vessels. What you do in a sense is grow blood vessels and by-pass the blockage, curing the pain, curing the ulcer and improving the patient’s lifestyle. Most of these patients are diabetic. It is an elderly group, which has a huge commercial potential. The Japanese company AnGes MG is conducting a double-blind efficacy pivotal trial. Pivotal trial means that if you get the right data, you have a good chance of the agency approving it for commercialization. That trial is double-blinded meaning that neither the doctors nor patients know who is getting what. The beauty is that after getting the drug or the placebo, the patients are evaluated and in Japan the way the trial has been designed, is unblinded so the patients who got the placebo have the option of getting the drug. It is a compassionate way of making sure that the patients who may benefit from the new treatment don’t just come into the trial and go home. The trial has been recruiting for two years and it is unblinded on each patient after they are evaluated so the Japanese must have some data; but we do not know what the data are. We are pretty excited how the trial is going. If everything goes well, they will be filing to the Japanese agency for approval by the end of this year, which is what we have been told. We will see how that all pans out. We expect a similar Phase 3 trial for the same indication to be conducted by a major pharma play known as Sanofi (Sanofi-Aventis Group – Euronext: SAN, NYSE: SNY), who also have great Phase 2 data on that study and they will be starting their Phase 3 study this year. We have three Phase 3 studies, two of them in the field of angiogenesis, one in the field of melanoma. The angiogenesis studies are completely financed by our partners and if they are successful, we stand to gain mid single digit royalties and milestone payments.”

CEOCFO: Were the angiogenesis technologies through an acquisition?
Mr. Samant: “It is our core technology that both the partners are using. The sequences or the genes that encode growth factors to promote the growth of blood vessels are proprietary. They are owned by those companies. But they can’t use those genes without our plasmid DNA technology. What we are licensing here is our delivery method; they have their proprietary gene sequences. Both of them are using unique gene sequences. If you are going to ask me, which one is better? We hope both are good for our sake.”

CEOCFO: What about the Phase 2 studies?
Mr. Samant: “The first study that we are doing in Phase 2 is for cytomegalovirus (CMV), which is a herpes virus, a benign pathogen, but if your immune system is compromised, it creates all kinds of complications. That is because CMV hides in your body and comes back when your immune system is not working at its full potential. It occurs in bone marrow transplant patients and solid organ transplant patients. The real opportunity is in congenital CMV when females of child-bearing age are CMV negative and they get pregnant and get infections with CMV. That causes major complications that lead to kids that are born with mental retardation, and birth defects. You heard of this new Human Papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine; CMV is the next frontier after HPV. It is not a sexually transmitted disease but it is like the old German measles where kids were born with a lot of defects and that has been completely wiped out. The market segments in that field are bone marrow transplant patients, which is a smaller market, solid organ transplant patients, which is the next market and the real big market is females of child-bearing years.

We are going after the bone marrow transplant patients first to get a proof of concept study and if we are successful, the next market is to migrate to solid organ transplant patients or more importantly to females of childbearing years where the commercial opportunity is huge. The biology of protection for CMV is reasonably well understood. That means you know which segments you need to invoke an immune response against to destroy CMV as a pathogen so you can afford protection. A lot of diseases lack biology of protection that is clearly understood and HIV is a good example; you really don’t understand the biology of protection. In CMV, a lot of work has been done historically, so that is very well understood. We can show proof of concept in the bone marrow transplant setting. We may decide to jump directly from there into a congenital CMV vaccine trial for females of childbearing age to get a proof of concept there. We own the intellectual property on the core technology. We own the intellectual property on the gene sequences, which we have licensed from other players. We own core technology on the formulations that we are using in the program. We are pretty excited about this trial. It is a slow recruiting trial, but once we get the data from this trial, it could lead to a huge commercial opportunity for this company.

The second Phase 2 study the study that the NIH (National Institutes of Health) is conducting right now. It is a 550 patient study in which they are going into healthy volunteers to see whether the vaccine can generate sufficient immune responses against important markers in the HIV pathogens. The goal here is that if you get good immune reactions against HIV, then that vaccine may work to prevent the further spread of HIV through sexual transmission. This is a proof of concept study. The Phase 1 study that they conducted showed great immune responses and if those are maintained in this Phase 2 study, this will allow them to go to a larger Phase 2 proof of concept study in high risk individuals. High-risk individuals in HIV are patients where one of the partners is HIV positive and the other is HIV negative. Their goal is to vaccinate these high-risk individuals and see if the vaccine group gets better protection than the placebo group. That is a several thousand patient study, which will start toward the third quarter of this year. The NIH is conducting it and it is known as the PAVE study. We are making the vaccine constructs for that study for which we have a contract for about $12 million dollars. Most of that vaccine has already been shipped and more remains to be shipped. That is another large Phase 2 study that will be conducted in addition to the study that is going on. Therefore, we have five advanced clinical programs; three Phase 3; two Phase 2.”

CEOCFO: Are there any other DNA vaccines on the market or will you be the first?
Mr. Samant: “It is our technology so nothing has been approved in humans, but there is already a vaccine approved in the animal health area by one of our licensees known as Aqua Health Ltd. (Novartis AG – NYSE: NVS), which has been used for treating salmon in hatcheries. Most of the salmon that is coming to the United States from Canada is vaccinated with our vaccine. These salmon raised in hatcheries are all Atlantic salmon and any time they are exposed to Pacific salmon, it gives them a rare type of infection and kills almost 80%. Our partner, who conducted a clinical trial with 3 million fish, had almost a 90% protection for one year, so that vaccine is now approved in Canada. This is a DNA vaccine approved in a food-producing animal to be consumed by humans. They have gone through extensive safety testing. This is a vaccine where individual fish are vaccinated and it is a low margin business, which tells you the economics of how we can make this vaccine inexpensively. That is one of the first targets that have been approved. Secondly, we expect our partner Merial Ltd. (Merck/Sanofi animal health joint venture), which is the world’s largest animal health company, to get a vaccine approved for melanoma in dogs. You may not be aware but melanoma is a serious disease in dogs. In companion animals, if your pet gets melanoma, you are willing to spend a lot of money. It is a decent market; they already have a letter from the U.S. Department of Agriculture that this vaccine should get approved in the near future. We expect it to be approved some time the first quarter. This is again another validation. The third target is that the CDC has shown that one vaccine can protect horses against the West Nile virus. We have demonstrated in fish, we are about to demonstrate in dogs and others have demonstrated in horses. We have shown three large diverse animal markets. We are getting close to getting approved in humans through a variety of programs. We are fast approaching validation in humans.”

CEOCFO: Would you be the first company to have a DNA vaccine for humans?
Mr. Samant: “I hope so! That is the goal. If it is not us, it will be one of our licensees because we own the core intellectual properties, so if anyone else is doing anything, they are going to need to get a license from us.”

CEOCFO: Can you handle all of this diversification?
Mr. Samant: “We can because in most of our programs, the partners are spending all the money on it. Our programs are primarily Allovectin-7® and CMV, and we have sufficient money. We raised about $50 million in the last two quarters; we have about $100 million in cash, so we have sufficient money to do what we need to do.”

CEOCFO: In closing, tell us if you will need to raise any more funds?
Mr. Samant: “Not at this stage, we just raised $50 million. However, as a biotech company you will always need to be savvy if the opportunity arises in the market. The stock price is reflective of your strength. You always have the ability to raise money. We have a shelf of $100 million so we are flexible. There is no urgency to raise money at this stage. We have a great management team and a great board with a lot of strategic insight on how biotech companies operate. We have great partners and one partner is the National Institutes of Health, which is one of our largest collaborators who will be spending almost $100 million on clinical trials to support this technology. Therefore, we have big corporate partners, a big federal government partner, solid management team and great board. We also have great shareholders, one of the best set of institutional shareholders. One of the recent shareholders we got was the government of Singapore’s financial arm, known as Temasek, which invested $25 million in the company. Temasek does not invest money in the U.S. companies very easily; they do a lot of homework and due diligence before they invest.”


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“We can apply our technology for vaccines; we can apply it for proteins, animal health applications, cancer. We are focusing on vaccines because vaccines are now probably the single most important medical advance that is going to be required in the next fifty years to deal with a variety of diseases as well as a variety of cancers. We are focused on one of the most lucrative applications of this technology.” - Vijay B. Samant

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